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  Has anyone on here referred to themselves as an apostate to fellow witnesses

  by Chook in

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  i have it bodes well for a snap photo..

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  Old Navy

  While not meant as one perhaps; nevertheless, your Mother gave you a great compliment!

  Apostates are the epitome of Cool!
  
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  For Minimus, and other old timers who remember H2O and the early days of exJW discussion boards

  by Broken Promises in

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  2. friends

  i'm having a debate with someone on facebook who claims he came up with the term "borg" in reference to the wts back in the mid 2000s.

  however i'm certain the term was used on h2o as early as 1999 as well as here when this site was first set up.. can anyone confirm that i'm not dreaming?

  what's the earliest you remember seeing the term being used?.

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  Old Navy

  Aye, probably most 'Murkuns became aware of the Borg in the late 80s with the Star Trek Next Generation series. The Borg and the Org shared strikingly similar characteristics.

  I didn't know about the Scientologists having Borg also. Very fitting in their case too.
  
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  Physically In, Mentally Out

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  7 years ago i was this "ultra spiritual elder".

  you name it, i was visible all over the region.

  i was the coordinator, on the convention committee, rbc, had a talk at every convention and assembly, regular pioneer, etc.

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  Old Navy

  Yep, the WTBorg experience does kinda shatter the mind into various compartments as the indoctrination is implanted. It'll take some time, as everyone has indicated, to enable the brain to re-assemble itself into a coherent unit once again. As you continue your search for Truth at your own pace you'll eventually come to the Really Good News. There is so much that the WTGB have gotten wrong about what is to come. Freedom is indeed a wonderful thing!
  
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  New Here

  by Red.tomato in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi everyone, this is my first post .. it takes a little bit of courage to do it, i have to admit and even thought i have been lurking for some time as time goes by it gets more and more difficult to keep attending meetings and just been around the friends in the congregation.

  ever since i learned about the arc something inside of me just broke and it feels pretty hollow, now i pay attention to every single form of manipulation in every direction, what difference it makes with the catholic church or with any other religions ?

  i wonder why the publishers are under obligation to report about their lives and decisions to the elders but they don´t keep informed the congregation about what´s going on legally other than russia.

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  Old Navy

  Aye, I'd like to add my joy at your awakening to the very encouraging welcome all of the others have given you. Should you ever have moments of "doubt" let Patty Loveless strengthen your resolve.

  Breaking away from the shackles and chains is a beautiful thing!
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  Who is benefiting from Watchtower Corporation financially

  by John Davis in

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  2. beliefs

  who do you believe is financially benefiting from watchtower business dealings.

  i know about the gold apple watch, but that is only a small percentage of the billions that they have.

  so who do you think is keeping all of this money.

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  One can only wonder. Do you suppose that any active witnesses in "good standing" have taken notice of the fact that the "fruitage" displayed by the GB and the Corporation are the fruits of Satan rather than those of the Almighty One and His Son?

  Are we seeing the Pride before the Fall?
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  Overcoming deeply ingrained false beliefs. (short video)

  by UNCONDITIONAL LOVE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the jw cult systematically teaches doctrines, which in turn become beliefs, that hinders a persons mental, emotional and spiritual growth.

  here are some great pointers on how to overcome deeply ingrained false beliefs.. .

  1 timothy 4:2. such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.. https://youtu.be/agywceulbx0.

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  Old Navy

  One of the most difficult beliefs XJws contend with is that the WTOrg really is God's chosen people and His exclusive channel of communication with True Worshipers. Once that false belief gives way to TTATT then the fear of facing annihilation and destruction in God's wrath begins to unravel. Then is when the healing is able to proceed. Thankfully, not all XJws were infected with morbid fears such as these, but for those who have been, the depth of depression may bring on suicidal thoughts. It is truly a very dark place from which there seems no escape. A True Friend who is able to perceive the cries for help and successfully intervene may be the only way out. Any idea how many Jws have resorted to suicide?
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  Overcoming deeply ingrained false beliefs. (short video)

  by UNCONDITIONAL LOVE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the jw cult systematically teaches doctrines, which in turn become beliefs, that hinders a persons mental, emotional and spiritual growth.

  here are some great pointers on how to overcome deeply ingrained false beliefs.. .

  1 timothy 4:2. such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.. https://youtu.be/agywceulbx0.

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  Aye, "Discernment" after JwBorg indoctrination is virtually a non-existent skill. The numerous fears that have been driven deeply into one's skull can become a huge distraction and if not overcome can cause one to crave "belonging" to another organization which employs similar tactics. Fear is tool number one of the JwBorg and those who seek to control.
  
  
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  My Younger Brother Has Left The Witnesses!! :-D

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. experiences

  absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.

  i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.

  i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.

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  Aye, this is the very best sort of news! Hopefully your Brother will one day join us here to experience true friendship. I have a special place in my heart for the violin and violinists too.
  
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  Do you think the general public cares about former Jehovah's witnesses?

  by Christian Gutierrez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering if you guys think if the general public cares about our stories or if they even care what the watchtower does to people??

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  Old Navy

  Times have certainly changed! When I first became involved with the witnesses back in 1957 they were a very hot topic in the MidWest. Once it became known at school that I was involved several of my teachers tried to warn me; my Chemistry teacher, my Latin Teacher, my Biology teacher and my Principal. Additionally my two uncles who were WW2 Navy veterans tried to warn me as well as their parents, my Grandpa and Grandma. The witnesses were greatly despised because of their pacifist beliefs, their strange Christian beliefs and of course, their cult behaviors. My Pastor at our rural Evangelical United Brethren church talked with me several times very lovingly to warn me as well but it was all for naught. I was very much basking in that initial state of "spell" which we all experienced, so none of their cautions or arguments phased me at all.

  My Father was especially angry and fortunately, now that I am able to see more clearly, forced me to stop attending meetings (although I did manage to attend most by stealth) and to continue in my high school athletics. I wanted to drop out of the Varsity Football team in my senior year but my Dad would have none of that. The coaches informed our local newspaper sports reporter of my "decision" and it was included in an article about our new high school athletics program and first ever Senior Football team. So I stayed with the team and even participated in Track the following spring, talking my witness friend into coming out for Track as well since the scheduled meets didn't conflict with any meetings at the hall. I don't believe he told his parents as he had his own car and was very independent so his devout family trusted him greatly.

  By this time I was already baptized (back then they were generic Christian baptisms) and a "brother." A year later I was in the Navy and moving out of their World. The cautions and warnings began to take effect and I knew the best option was to get far away from them for several years.

  As I read others experiences here and at the various XJw sites it seems I was one of the very few "lucky" ones who escaped before becoming the typical borg robot. Needless to say, I'm very, very grateful that so many of my respected adult "role models" devoted so much effort to waking me up. While I pretty much disregarded their warnings, they did plant seeds very successfully.
  
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  144,000 & The Trinity

  by Libby in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  now that i'm looking beyond what the wt teaches i'm struggling to find information on three topics.

  the 144,000, the trinity and prayer.. if anyone has 5 minutes could they explain:.

  1. what do other religions think the 144,000 are or is?

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  Since "The Trinity" is not a Biblical teaching there is no Biblical requirement to support it; all that is necessary Biblically is to believe that there is a Heavenly Father; a Son and a Holy Spirit. Even when the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D. by vote decided upon the Doctrine of The Trinity there was not complete agreement. In fact, there hasn't been since either. Initially, those who refused to believe the new doctrine of The Trinity were persecuted and executed. Thankfully, that no longer happens but the emotional levels of disagreement can often elevate to nearly that outcome.

  The 144,000 will know who they are and what they must do. It is not up to them just as it wasn't up to Saul on the road to Damascus.

  I have found these explanations to be very helpful:
  

  The Great Commission, Part 1

  The Great Commission, Part 2